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Postby speedmstr » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:17 am

Sorry if this comes across as rather over emotional. I wrote this late at night: drifting between sleep and wakefulness, so it is probably not the most eloquent and well thought out piece of writing (given the grave subject matter)

I'M NOT JUDGING ANYONE, I JUST WROTE THIS TO EXPRESS MY OWN INTERNAL/MORAL AND EMOTIONAL CONFLICT

I recently became aware of this

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/fe ... de-w513801

I'm very shocked and saddened. At the loss of this human life. And no; I'm not just saying this because she was beautiful (and using that as a reason to legitimise the mourning of her passing/suicide)

It makes me ashamed that, we allow out fellow human beings to exist in such a dark and negative frame of mind, with little to no help after suffering a traumatic childhood. How can you heal, when your still exploited and tormented by memories?

The objectification of a woman takes on even deeper meaning, when one fully understands the trauma they had been through.

But I guess all of those directors didn't care much about her mental health. I know pornstars do it for money. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't take into account their personal lives and issues. This is why substance misuse and mental health issues should be addressed first (get them back on their feet so they can make an informed and healthy choice, on how they wish to use their bodies).

Health must take priority over commercial opportunities to exploit women, to fulfill men's unrealistic sexual fantasies.

The industry seems to pray on these women. And use their issues and desire for escapism to control them and use them. Until there is nothing left but a shell.

Just goes to show how little thought is sparred for these performers. Do we ever stop to think about these pornstars and what they might be going through?

Please realise I'm not bashing the LGBT community (or holding them entirely accountable for what happened). It is plain to see that Ms Ames handled the situation she put her self in poorly: her statements were unnecessarily divisive/ homophobic and were not very logically sound.


But she has paid dearly for them. With her own life.


Shouldn't this serve a lesson to us all. Please think before abusing the power of social media and free speech.

You could hurt someone more than you think.

Finally tip them over the edge.

I Don't know how to feel about these any more:

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=21200&p=69298&hilit=august+ames#p69298

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=21175&p=69576&hilit=august+ames#p69576

I'm going to delete the copy of this that I have on my Hard drive. I Don't know if I should keep any copies of it at all, to be perfectly honest.

In short: I feel guilty. (same way I did when I found out Sarah Twain died)

Should I/ (we as a community of fetishists) experience pleasure from it, given what has now come to light?

It's made me question my own personal beliefs. I realise that we should Value all women as humans. Not sex meat to be toyed with

Ps: Do we ever stop to think about these pornstars and what they might be going through? (I'm not including or considering the work of amateurs and fetishists in that those productions are another kettle of fish, so to speak)
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Re: Guilt

Postby KDS144 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:44 pm

I think you’ve raised a very valid point Speedmstr - it’s so easy to forget about the people behind these performances. I’ve seen a number of clips where it’s plain to see that the woman is not enjoying what is going on - that’s a complete turnoff for me. That’s basically viewing that person as an object, and not considering their feelings. That’s aside from the issue of STIs.

I know the porn industry is out there to make money, but why should its performers have any less rights than they would in any other industry.

That’s the appeal of amateur clips, I think - you would imagine the performers are fully consenting (hopefully).
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Re: Guilt

Postby speedmstr » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:00 pm

KDS144 wrote:I think you’ve raised a very valid point Speedmstr - it’s so easy to forget about the people behind these performances. I’ve seen a number of clips where it’s plain to see that the woman is not enjoying what is going on - that’s a complete turnoff for me. That’s basically viewing that person as an object, and not considering their feelings. That’s aside from the issue of STIs.

I know the porn industry is out there to make money, but why should its performers have any less rights than they would in any other industry.

That’s the appeal of amateur clips, I think - you would imagine the performers are fully consenting (hopefully).



I couldn't agree with you more, it's so obvious that a large proportion of them are as high as a kite while performing. I know they want to numb themselves and disassociate from reality (to cope with what they are doing). But production companies and directors feeding a habit, or perhaps leading them down the road of addiction (and the accompanying deterioration of their mental health) seems to be recklessly irresponsible.

I'm only going to support independent amateur productions from now on. After all, Manyvids and C4S are a lot less exploitative as a platform.

And I would hope these amateurs perform freely without coercion or pressure. From what I understand, most of then tend to perform with trusted partners, whom they feel comfortable with. And use recreational substances for their own enjoyment (hopefully) and not as a mechanism, by which they are controlled by others.

I would hope they have happy and healthy relationships too, where they can be open and express themselves, with a caring and understanding partner who is supportive in helping them get any help they need.
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Re: Guilt

Postby KDS144 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:15 am

Indeed - I assume most contributors are on C4S, Manyvids etc as they are willing (and not in an abussive relationship where their partner is pushing them to make clips). I’m sure many do it just as a way of making money, while others enjoy the exhibitionist side of things. Either way, they are in control and don’t have to do anything they don’t want to. That’s much more of a turn on to me...
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